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Aurora Widespan Shelving

Aurora Wide-Lok Wide Span Shelving

Aurora Wide Span Shelving is heavy duty, quick lock shelving with three rivets to hold loads up to two thousand pounds, if not more, per shelf level. Shelves can be steel, wood or wire shelves. The wide span shelving fits so many industrial applications. 
Aurora Museum Cabinets

Aurora Museum Cabinets

 Natural History Museum Cabinets:
Zoology Cabinets:
          Invertebrate                        Zoology
          Vertebrate Zoology
          Amphibians &                    Reptiles
Museum Collections Cabinets:
          Botanical Cabinets
          Entomology Cabinets

Aurora Wire Shelving

Aurora Wire Shelving

Aurora MobileRak

Aurora MobileRak

Make your Pallet Rack Mobile to fit so much more storage in your warehouse. The industrial market segment is seeing some of the biggest growth, especially with Aurora’s new mobile rack division. 

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The originators of Four Post File Shelving.  Aurora continues to grow and add to their shelving accessories list. A few groups are starting to decrease their shelving options. Aurora is doing the complete opposite. Adding shelving options to accommodate  the specific shelving and storage needs of customers from educational markets, to athletic equipment storage including many security options. Aurora Storage Products offers roll up tambour doors, swing open doors and sliding doors for their shelving. Aurora’s available shelving accessories will continue to grow in 2021 with the expansion of industrial modular drawer cabinets,  heavy duty drawers and weapon storage accessories for the Aurora Quick Lock Shelving Line.

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Aurora Storage Products Wide Span Shelving is heavy duty, quick lock shelving with three rivets to hold loads up to two thousand pounds, if not more, per shelf level. Shelves can be steel, wood or wire shelves. The wide span shelving fits so many industrial applications. 

Here we go, here’s some more information on the Aurora Wide Span Shelving. A direct competitor with Space Savers Raptor, Rack. Montel and Space Saver make a similar product and this competes with them. And wow does it complete!  With a thirteen hundred to two thousand capacity and so many widths! The widths 50, 60 all the way up to 96 inches. Basically it’s a triple rivet design, so it’s a super sturdy post. Aurora was able to lower the cost and increase the capacity on it to make it “the product” in that product class.. If you’re looking for nice heavy duty shelving, Aurora Wide Span Shelving is the way to go. 

Aurora Storage Systems
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Aurora Storage products is based just outside of Chicago in Aurora, Illinois. Aurora Storage Products is really known for their quality fit and finish. As president of Material handling USA, James Gault can honestly tell you, “It is the best four post shelving I’ve ever seen. In fact, all of Aurora’s products are the best in the industry”. Best products, best paint, and best installations. 

Installations, that is where it becomes obvious Aurora Shelving and storage products are the best.

I’ve installed most if not all Mobile Shelving and four post shelving products available today. There are others that are good, but in today’s world these products get set up, torn down, set up and torn down over and over again. Things change more than ever. The Aurora Storage Products are the only mobile shelving, four post shelving and Times Two Speed Files that goes up the second and third time just as perfectly as the first time. Others fit together sloppier and sloppier. 

It can get hard to get them up at all and then they can be wobbly. 

Aurora Mobile Shelving, Times Two Speed Files and Aurora Four Post Shelving go together over and over again and it remains so solid. You can write all the marketing material you want about gauge of steel and other specifications but the proof is in an installer who has been installing for many years and has installed all of the products out there and taken them down and re installed them. 

Aurora Storage Products is the sister company of Richard Wilcox Conveyor and Hardware

Again new things are happening at Aroura Storage Products as we now kick off 2023. Aurora president, Bob .McMurtry still leaders the group. Aurora Storage products  MJ cantilevers library shelving line continues to grow. Always the leader!

Aurora Storage Products laser cutter machine icuts some cool custom products like end panels, perforated shelves and perforated uprights. It can cut circles, but you can do diamond or grid, or any pattern or style you want.

Some customers, from law firms to schools, laser etched logos and names into uprights and end panels.

Aurora Storage Products has a lot of different capabilities to offer with custom the laser cutting. 

Aurora Parachute Hanger Storage

This system is one that Aurora Storage Products designed and sold for parachutes and flight gear. 

The B 52 bomber pilots at Barksdale Air Force Base needed storage for parachute and  flight gear transport. Aurora supplied the mobile shelving system to hold parachutes and flight gear. You can see on the bottom right. Those are the parachutes that the two pilots carry with them on the plane that weigh about forty five pounds each using Aurora weapons  perforated panels. With perforated panels Aurora can add almost any accessory to storage almost anything you have. We were able to hang the parachutes and launch kits and all that stuff on that system. So pretty cool. They are loving it!

Aurora Weapons Storage Shelving

Aurora Storage Products Military Storage Solutions

Military armories and training schools have a wide variety of storage needs for valuable, sensitive and pilferable equipment that needs to be stored in the best products available.  

Records                                                        Uniforms
Reports                                                         Body Armor
Parachutes                                                   Helmets                                                                                                                        Weapons                                                       Optics
Electronics                                                    Ready Bags
MRE                                                                Mess Hall Storage
Janitorial                                                        Workroom Tools
TO Binders

Aurora Cafeteria Shelving
Times Two Speed File for Weapons
Aurora TO Binder Cabinets
Aurora Military Flight Gear Shelving Mobile Shelving
Aurora Weapons Shelving
Aurora Readiness Bag Shelving
Aurora Art Rack

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The art storage is kind of in partnership with the Richard Wilcox Conveyer Group. Some of the conveyer channels that they use in that division were incorporated into Aurora’s  Art Rack Storage Systems. Now, this is interesting because Ororo is thinking of it as arts and high. And I said this is industrial storage. 

This can be used for belts and hoses and heavy duty tooling as much as it is for art storage.
And they have three different styles of it. So we’ve started to incorporate this in the industrial division, more so and and seen a lot of success with it. Aurora also has the static requires that can be wall mounted and then the a frame style storage was shown art storage here, but it can also be used for industrial.
Aurora High Bay Shelving

Here is some really High Bay Shelving in an Ace Hardware Warehouse

Yeah, we’ve done some extremely tall stuff!  We’re more than comfortable to stack and grow those uprights very high. Built to compete with Space Savers High Bay Product. This a direct competitor and can be put on mobile bases.

Aurora Weapons Storage Shelving

 Here are some weapons storage Shelving to hold handgun and long rifles.

I like showing the mobile The Times 2 Speed File option and a static shelving so we can put it in any of our products and all of its customizable inside that particular unit. 

Aurora Mobile Library Shelving on Casters

This is what many libraries now call mobile shelving.

It really came into play during the Covid of 2020/2021 as libraries needed to move shelving around to accommodate visitors needs for social distancing while keeping the library open. Aurora released library shelving stacks on wheels in 2019 and it became very popular in 2020.  It allows library staff to easily alter the layout and design of a library where you can move ranges out of the way or easily alter the way your library aisles are facing and designed. 

Aurora Storage Products can do these library stacks on wheels for the MJ  Library Shelving line and the Aurora Case Style Library Shelving.

We can do it with wood or laminate and we can do it with steel tops and ends as well. There are some small units and some larger units in the library where they did just that. Aurora Library Shelving offers both a concealed caster and the open caster. So whichever you’d like. We are on your side!

Aurora Mobile Shelving for Libraries

More images of the NEW Mobile Shelving for Libraries for 2021!

These mobile Library shelving units allow staff to easily reconfigure the library. The reason that is important is libraries need to reconfigure more than we have in the past to account for different activities and for social distancing.

Another new Aurora Storage Products is modular lockers. 

These lockers are based off the Aurora Four Post Shelving design. These lockers offer more of an aesthetic design or for custom sizes. We offer personal duty lockers. We’re offering evidence lockers both front and double entry on those. We also offer three different handle types for all the units round handle, traditionally lever or the electronic keypad. So if you’re designing a drop off like Amazon parcels in a condominium complex or at a community center, those lockers are very popular right now.

pic of weapons rack accessories

Here’s the Aurora Storage Products Widespan Shelving being utilized on mobile, both for military and museum collections, those are flat files in the mobile system. And this is very close because the bulk rack from Tesco isn’t inexpensive. It’s nesh to right where it’s not Z line, but it’s not pallet rack. So it’s nice, especially in a museum setting where you can’t do the particleboard shells for off gassing, then this is a good option for you. Yeah, I just I like that as a flat shelf because the tents go as either particleboard wire or that corrugated the corrugated deck.

I had issues where I used to sell them to museums and then they put stuff on it and whether it’s big and bulky or whatever, then they have to like put like plastic sheets down on it or something that they didn’t have stuffed fallen into the different groups. Right. So this is a nice option for that.

pic of museum cabinets


Aurora Storage Products Museum cabinets I believe we’re the only group in North America that makes a drying cabinet. That’s the bottom right one. We don’t know of anyone else even offers that. We also have the mobile collections card, that little purple guy, that’s an exclusive. And then the herbarium and entomology in the flat file cabinet. So a ton of different museum storage and all of that can be utilized as static or put on mobile carriages as well. 
There’s some of it in the field with different collections pieces.

The Aurora Storage Products Times 2 Rotary File

The really cool feature about the Times Two Cabinet is the the space savings of instead of using lateral cabinets,. You can fit almost twice as much stuff in a Times 2 Unit plus add the security of locking all of it. Offices  have really started moving towards smaller units that can be used like workstations or collaborative work areas. And here’s some more so that they’ve added laminate tops and made a workstation out of them.

pic of aurora mobile shelving

Aurora Storage Products offers three different types of mobile carriages. The largest one is the 1000 Series, does a thousand pounds of linear foot and then the smaller low profile carriage at seven hundred and fifty pounds. We’re looking right now at developing a smaller retail carriage, but also making adjustments to both of these systems to keep increasing their capacities. We also do a density system which is putting times two shells on top of the mobile carriage. It greatly increases the I guess lowers the cost of adding draws to a unit if you throw at times to shell on top of it.

Again, athletic storage, and we’re continuing to add accessories to this to compete with Space Saver and Montel for all of that.

Aurora Storage Products electric system, because of our mobile rack, is getting an overhaul. We’re looking at doing new controls and actually getting rid of the wiring and pendulum arms altogether. We’re going to be doing Bluetooth connect ability so that you can actually operate the system via your phone on an app or in the mobile rack.

The forklift driver can do it on a cell phone inside the box without getting off the forklift. So that’s getting overhauled and here it is, the mobile rack so far this month, I’ve quoted five mobile rack systems in my new territory. So this is something people are doing it. It’s that Min Max concept, Jim, that I’ve my father taught me a long time ago. Are you going to try to maximize the capacity or minimize the footprint? Well, if you’ve got a ton of mobile or pallet racking and you’re running out of warehouse space, the next logical step outside of leasing a new facility is, hey, mobilize what you’ve currently got.

So, yeah, I think the pause on that for just a second, because there are. 

There are high density pilot applications available already. Have you guys compared? So there would be pushback, drive in and drive through rock and then gravity flow. Raef would be the current high density options previously to Mobarak. Have you guys compared pricing on the mobile rack to options like that, or do you have like you have like sales approaches that would where you could convince a customer this is going to be better for them than one of those three options at this time?

Not to the degree I’d like, Chris, but I know that the actual because because our track in one thousand series carriage is so robust right out of the gate, they didn’t have to do a lot of changes to it.

Aurora Storage Products have such robust product cost wise for the carriages and those components, I believe we are more competitive is what I’ve been told so far from other dealers, because they’re like, well, yeah, you’re not doing crazy. Huge upgrades from what you already had. Now we aren’t making the pallet. We can either let you source that locally or we can add it to the quote as an added value. But I’m not sure the Montelena space saver necessarily making their own pallet rack right now either.

I don’t think so. So, again, I think that’s also a wash. 

But yeah, our carriages and such are really not overly they’re not being altered. And when we’re getting into heavier, longer carriages, all that they’re doing is adding extra motors to the carriages. So basically, when you’re touching the direction, it’s not that they’re adding everything up. They’re just adding motors that get triggered at the same time to move the carriage all at once.

How does the how does the track work?

Is this something that you typically would recommend gets embedded so that the forklift drives over it or do you have some other we’re recommending to play it on the existing concrete floor and back still.

And then for the front track that you would basically have your contractor for what would be a concrete ramp, it’s not like a sidewalk transition. So you you lay the track, you don’t need a cut. You don’t need to have a concrete cutter come in. You just lay the track right on their existing warehouse floor. Then then they come in and they backfill between those rails. Correct. And then the concrete company will also pour a concrete ramp. 

 if you had a thick enough slab and the reason that that would be my number one recommendation out of the gate is because more often than not, what I’ve discovered and seen is a lot of people coming to us with a five inch or a six inch slab.

Well, then you’re going to have to get engineering involved to say, OK, if we cut down the slab two to three inches. Right. To try to do an embedded travel, that’s a good point. Will the slab be able to take the weight of everything that you’re putting on? Because don’t forget, if you’re doing a mobile system to maximize the capacity, well, now you’re putting a whole lot more weight in a concentrated area. And if you’re going into that slab, it is getting thinner and thinner. You run the risk of losing structural integrity in the concrete slab.

yeah, cutting troughs does not make sense.

what’s the height that we need to raise from the high point to the track?  if it’s a crowded mobile system, you need an extra quarter inch to get the ground underneath on the high point. But I said, if you’re doing a concrete sidewalk transition out the front track, how much do I need to have for the grade of it to the slope so that the forklift doesn’t feel like it’s going up and into the system? that transitional grade in and out of the system.

Yeah, I mean, that’s going to depend on how level the warehouse floor is.

Assuming it was perfectly level, then you only really need an inch. But how often how often have we seen perfect. I’ve never I’ve seen it once in 12 years, especially warehouses, because typically a warehouse, depending on the size, has a slope floor intentionally for a runoff. So that could be an issue as well. So, yeah.

And are you finding that you’re quoting mainly electric systems or are you actually quoting Poltrack systems with a mechanical handle

I think three of them have an option of mechanical. It’s just not you have to think if you’re used to whip in and out of aisles on a forklift having to get down and crank those things over, although doable on not giant systems, the cost savings is not going to be worth it when it’s like, man, this is slow.

And I guess if you were not accessing the Dirac’s that often it’s not a big deal, you’d be on the campaign. But if you’re in and out of it at least two to four times a day, I tell you, you need you need to go with an electric system.

Right now it’s loads up to sixty thousand pounds per section.

So averagely that’s about three high, three opening. Kind of like in the top photo.

Raising questions in my head, typically, Pallet Rack will utilize the top shelf, a warehouse that’s twenty four feet as twenty four feet ceilings, they’ll put 16 foot rack in there and put a four foot pallet on top 

It just would come down to it would come down to the loading that they’re doing.

Ok, but could they use the top. Yes. 
Especially for those like 3D digital renderings where I can be like, hey, guys, should put the pallets on top. 
The Aurora Storage Products side to side, this is a little bit different than the lighter duty laterals I was used to, number one, that the modular deck and number two, they can utilize that overhead track from the Richard Wilcox division. So this is really nice in terms of anyone that’s worried about these units tipping or falling over. These are very secure. Here’s some filing and then on the right hand side, some pharmaceutical applications for the laterals. So a lot of this I don’t know if there’s been a rush because of covid, but the pharmacy industry is one where we’ve seen a lot of growth in.

Talk about growth, we do also look at the cannabis systems.

We haven’t done a lot of it. I’m not going to say this is something where we’ve seen a lot of growth. We haven’t, but we have done a couple of systems. The express program, with lead times being longer than usual over the last year or so, this express program took off in a big way. We’re offering six colors for our times, two quick lock and side to side. So it’s a less 50 discount, but it’s a one week lead time. So if someone needs something quick, we can offer that in those three product lines.

The thirty one ecofriendly lost tack, the one that has taken off since I’ve been there has been the white color and that’s what they also just added to the express program.

It’s very popular. That’s something that I was excited since, like rain and sand seemed like the only colors anyone did for the last 20 years, Aurora support. So this is where I want to go. And some stuff’s obviously you all are aware of the configurator. What we’re offering new also is the Revit objects for architects and designers that are specking the Aurora projects that they can actually drop our products right into the cans for plans that they’re designing you’ll be excited to know that we’re also going to be getting our products on master spec.

What this means is that we should see a significant increase in leads for specified projects on Ice Square and Construct Connect. 

Also, we’re hoping just general leads. Also, we still have our in-house design support team . Any quick revisions. r FPO, RPO basically from quote to purchase to production to the delivery or shipment, new software that’s going to help the company input data have real time tracking and information as it’s being built that we can show to dealers and relay to customers. 

looking at gaining additional state contracts. 

We also added source well contract, which was formerly the Ngapa, so whether it’s in partnership with the card star. I’m sure you’re familiar with Newcrest probably as well. But when Tenso go drop their mobile line, they work in partnership together. But as soon as Tedesco got rid of the mobile line for them to actually retain that source while contract, they needed to partner with another Division 10 specialty group. So they grabbed auroral. And that’s another one where a lot of end users, you can, working through that contract, avoid bad situations. So it is helpful in that sense, not the greatest discounting in the world, but it can help keep a project from going to bid, which is usually more important.

Material Handling USA can generally have you a quote same day.

Sometimes the project is more complex and that may take another minute to get it correct but it will be very fast for an accurate quote.  

Aurora Mobile Pallet Rack

Here is some great new information on Aurora Storage Products industrial marvel. 

just review our product line real quickly and then we’ll we’ll look at the Mobile Rack. these are the vertical markets we’re typically in pretty much all the markets you guys are in from day to day health care, GSA, state and local government,  cannabis, big industrial warehouse and distribution is big these days.
Corporate offices are starting to come back as far as from the Covid outbreaks. So those are starting to pick up again. And then we’re seeing a lot of activity in school libraries and the museum business that kind of fall along the lines you guys are calling on. 

 So Aurora Shelving was invented right here in Aurora,  so we designed it with the no hardware, the simple assembly.

You guys are used to dealing with that in the market. We also have the wood tech style for post. So that’s our library double wall shelving with wood clad fronts and sides and tops. So it’s always available. We also, acquired MJ library, cantilevers shelving, this is the big market we have and this is school and public libraries. 

Those are going hot and heavy right now. So this is allowed us to participate a little more in that market. We traditionally had the library shelving, but the MJ library shelving is the cantilever that many of the librarians just request and require. They won’t entertain the other library type shelving. So this allows us to serve that market as well.

These are some accessories. 

A lot of the libraries now are going with the mobile shelving, not in the mobile shelving that we understand it as, but as the concealed caster mobile shelving what it’s shelving on casters that they’re moving around. So that’s what the library market calls mobile shelving. And those are the accessories that a lot of people are buying in the public libraries, because right now public libraries are kind of turning into makerspace areas or they’re serving a lot of different aspects. So they want to be able to move the shelving around. So the traditional role shelving is kind of going by the wayside, although there’s still plenty of it. 

There’s a lot of the smaller libraries are going with this mobile stuff. 

We also make the modular lockers and this is all made out of our four post shelving so you can get the electronic locks or and it’s all built knock-down so you can incorporate it with a shelving or standalone. So that’s the the glory of using the Aurora shelving for the lacquers.  

We also manufacture the flat files, these are big in the museum business, so they’re flat files.

 People are putting them on mobile carriages or standalone, usually for fabrics or maps. The county house is buying for maps. And the museums tend to buy it for either pictures or rugs, as you see there, or textiles. We also have the wide span shelving. This is up to ninety six wide its component, just like our HSP. So that’s available when you need it. 

Typically, what we’re going to talk about a little later is the mobile rack, which uses Pallet Raggy. 

Some of it might use this wide span, but the way capacities aren’t as great on the wide span. Those are selling a lot in the museum as well as archives storage. We have wire shelving, NSF approved, so we’re selling a lot of this in the schools and the hospitals. So this is available any time you need it. Hanging our Barack, we’ve got a couple of systems out at the auction houses in New York, so this is now available. It’s built with basically some of our industrial components, with the sliding rails that you might see at the top here. There’s a trolley in there that pull these out. So we’re manufacturing these. We’ve we’ve got an order in the house right now for a they won’t tell me who it is, but it’s a multimillionaire who’s putting him in his basement. And he’s got quite a. Quite a collection. So but they’re signed to secrecy. They can’t tell me who it is. Eventually, I’ll find out. 

But we also have the times to restored. 

I think most people are familiar with that’s another one we invented and we have marketed where we’re one of pretty much three in the market. And we we lead the market with the specs. We’re the only ones with the foot pedal and the positive rotating. So that has been built into specs throughout the years. And that’s it’s done well for us. We think we make the best one in the market, 

And then obviously the multiple storage. We’ve got the traditional size is six feet to fifty one feet in length. Again, these are traditional storage filing and storage and now like athletic storage or just regular storage in warehouses. So obviously, when we talk about mobile practices, we’re trying to incorporate our standard product into the mobile rack, industrial racking category. It’s also available on electric, which is also what we would use in the the Mobarak version of it. 

And we have traditional side to side we manufactured here, so that’s available for the traditional filing markets. 

And like everyone else, we’re trying to get into the cannabis field, it’s it’s becoming kind of low, low cost solutions to them. But there’s plenty of money out there and we’re finding most of them are kind of leaning towards these trace systems. Again, we had developed with a partner, sort of a level type of shelving, opening type where it was. You could have seven openings in there, but that doesn’t seem to be taking off.
They just seem to go back to this traditional look that you see up on the left hand corner. So they’re available using our traditional mobile garages. The loads aren’t really excessive. It’s just incorporating the lighting in the irrigation. 

And then we have museum cabinets used in the museums, obviously, for storage.

We have the visual cabinets, the entomology cabinets, botanical cabinets. So those are all available if you guys run into any of those applications. And this is the new product, we just introduced it to store wise cabinets, modular cabinets. All right, let’s let’s let’s get into discussing the the mobile rack real quick, we do have the full design support available when you’re looking for quotes so you can go to the science support . All right. Let’s discuss Mobilerak, we have come up with the mobile rack to it to participate in the industrial racking business that seems to be growing more and more as as Covid hits and as people buy buy online all the time. So it’s a market we have to be attentive to. So just talk about a little story, how we evolved it, we we’ve pretty much been supplying mobile shelving for the filing and storage business for years. I think most people are familiar with that. But that’s a different sort of animal than what the industrial storage is. 

So. And what we had found out that the floor loading issues that we were probably concerned about are different when it comes to industrial shelving. 

So, as you know, traditional systems rely on the floor loading and you’ve got to disperse that load a certain way. Typically, these are on different floors than the first floor. So floor loading is very, very critical. So these are engineered to disperse the load differently than they are in the industrial market from what we’ve learned. With a traditional industrial storage, it’s more and more it’s now becoming they’re putting these on mobile carriages, but traditionally they’ve just been rows of pallet rack storage. As you can see, those are dispersed with rows. And typically you need about an eight to 10 feet of aisles so you can get a fork truck in there to maneuver and turn in and take it out. So that uses quite a bit of floor space. 

So obviously the need there is to compress those just like it is in the offices and the more and more people are tuned to it.

So what we we did, we incorporated our mobile into service, some of this market gives you the same advantages of office storage, 50 percent more floor space, or you can double your your. Your storage, if you add to it, are compacted down, you can reduce a section of your factory to maintain your storage, but free up half the space so it saves them quite a bit of money. So, as I mentioned, the order fulfillment seems to be driving quite a lot of warehouse stores, you have to keep a lot of inventory. 

So there’s a lot of warehouses popping up and Amazon’s probably the driver of that. 

So they’re looking to compact that space so they can get more in in the same footprint as you can see from that picture there, that they’ve got mobilized and still got beguiles. But at least you only have one at this one. So what we had learned when we were looking at putting pallet racking into a system was. The second was that the loads are different when it comes to tracking as opposed to our four post shelving in our carriages, set up the way they are, the pallet racking pretty much absorbs the loads, the beams absorb the load and they disperse them out to the post.

So you see the arrows there where the loans on there and it disperses to the post and the post goes straight down. 

So what we learned is we have to do for many of the applications is move our rail under the posts again, that the middle of the carriage isn’t seeing any of the load. It’s it’s just the the post of the pallet. So, again, there’s that picture there. We now put the rail under every post. So whether it be eight feet, 10 feet or 12 feet, the rail goes directly under the post. And again, the pallet wrecking handles the load, the carriages and the track capacity is what dictates what you can put on on our standard system. 

we’ll look at that right now. 

That’s right now one of our carriage sections, so as we discussed, the most power ranking is in eight, 10 or 12 feet. So. The sections tend to be that whatever that is. So if you’re one of the ones I’ve quoted right now, our eight foot long, and the reason for that is because they’re putting two pallets in there and they’re put in four to five levels of pallets. So each section ends up being about eight feet and then the next section is the same. But this is the way that carriage now looks.

You have the the wheels that are on the the far edges of the carriages. 

Typically in office, you would overhang this maybe 20 inches off here, but with the power rack and we have to have it right under the post. So it’s the load is going directly to our wheels. So each of our wheels sets handles fifteen thousand pounds. So in a standard carriage even today as a standard carriage with two wheels, sets will handle thirty thousand pounds. And if you want if you want more than that, we just add another real set and it pretty much works that we’re still driving one, but that gives you the low capacity so we can double the capacity on each side to give us a total of sixty thousand pounds per carriage.

And that’s that’s pretty heavy duty. 

That’s to get to get 60 thousand pounds on one carriage alone is it’s pretty difficult to do because Pallet racking isn’t even rated for that, but it has the capacity to take the loads if needed. So if you have sixty thousand pounds per section, we can handle it and then every other section thereafter, you’re you’re loading it the same way. So it’s it’s it’s we can handle the capacity. It’s not going to really see it that much. And it almost all applications

 Can you clarify. So you’re saying sixty thousand pounds. Are you talking about sixty thousand pounds for the entire length of the carriage or the individual section of rack,

The individual section of rack? And so now we’re talking about these carriages, as you know, come in sections. So this would be one section, be it eight, 10 or 12. And then if you’re connecting the next one, then you’ve got the same amount there.  And usually the problem we don’t see we’re not going to see is the loading of the track and wheels. They, they can handle it. It’s, it’s the, the total load of these carriages there. Again we’ve seen the medium range lengths which are twenty four to thirty, but the big ones out there are get a lot longer than that. So we have to obviously beef up some of the most. 

It’s going to be electrical at that point, but the wheels in track and take it, it’s just a matter of where we put them because the way Pallet designed to take very heavy loads and disperse them the way we need them dispersed. that’s why I keep bringing up a fairly typical and I’m basing that on my limited experience, you guys might have other situations, but the ones I’ve run into have been a lot of them have been eight inches wide sections and maybe by twenty four feet long or 30 feet long. 

Typically they’ve been four rows high. I mean, yeah, for Roseby maybe five in each of those allows you to put a certain amount of pallets on it.

So typically an eight eight foot carriage or section you’re allowed, you’re putting two standard pallets on there on a 12 foot, you’re putting three. That seems to be what I’m running into when people are trying to specify the most efficient way possible is to use the the eight for the two pallets and 12 for the three balance. Yeah. And just how do you address, you know, like on a typical high density system, not a rack system. But if the wheels are not driven, you know, each rail is not driven, you’re going to get some type of tracking system where the front moves before the rear. You know that condition. How are you addressing that in the rack? Because it’s just magnified a lot more when you go to ranking systems, when they start to move. Are you do you have to do any bolting to the the actual pallet rack itself differently?

Well, we have our standard carriage is what we call a or drive. 

So we’re using what we call torque tubes because that racking that you’re discussing for a mobile situation tends to come because of wind up in the shaft that’s going through there. Hopefully I’m addressing that question. Yes, we have the Syncro drive that that eliminates that that that talking throughout the system. So it drives equally at the back as the front and we call it Sinco Drive. 

And I can get you some more information on that. 

But it’s essentially where we have tubes that release the twist. So and it drives a sprocket down down the carriage so that we can avoid that racking. OK, you’re right here in the heavy load, pallet racking. You might see it a lot more because of the heavy loads that you’re trying to move and get started. But we use a single drys for that because even even the office systems C can see a lot of weight relative, not not the pallet rack weights, but still pretty heavy.  We’ve run and then The other was is will drive more than one motor. Let’s say you’re doing a six will carry.

Well, on a 60 foot carriage, I’d say, assuming the loads are in a certain area, say we’re doing a 60 foot carriage with six sections on it, your odds are we’re going to have two motors on that. 

and that’s a good point, because a system that long is is almost always going to be an electrical system because I mean, you can do a lot of cranking with a hand crank, but that’s getting pretty high up there and in weight loads. 

So the standard ones I’ve seen in our limited time here have been you could go mechanical or electric because of the load simply aren’t there. It’s just they’re doing a four to five nights with two pallets per section. But on the big ones. On the big one. Yes. We certainly after I mean, if you get the 60 foot with the maximum loads, you’re going to have two or three motors. Or be your motor, but I think what we can do is synchronize the motors, which is what we’re working on now. So I get into that a little bit later.

 do you do you get into how that is anchored and any anti tips on that?

Yeah, that’s typically we’ll put any tip on on it where it needs it. But for a standard application, Pallet racking tends to be a certain height and depth where tipping is not a problem. But we would put in a tip channels in our track to avoid the. How is.

How is the Rack anchored to the carriage?

palette racking you’re putting on there, we would design the pad. It would bolt to the carriage that way. OK, this is the pad here. So we would need to know what pallet racking you’re using or. And so we could get the right pad there, right? We would engineer that once it came in.

 on the lowest level, do you require beams, pallet rack beams, or can you put the wire decking right on, right on the carriage?

No, you still mean you you will still have a lower beam because the whole concept of the power is the beam still dispersing that load over the wheels. If we just put it in our carriages and we’re back to the carriage integrity. So you would have to have a beam at the bottom.  a note about seismic, we handle the seismic in just the same way we were in our office version of this, either with Interac and I tip or if it if the height base ratio is is exceeded to the I don’t think we can exceed six to one. You have to use overhead and I tip, which is available on these systems as well. We don’t. I’d say probably seven out of 10, we don’t need the overhead, but it’s available if necessary, and you don’t want one of these things falling over

my parents with Rapke in Iraq in over 12 foot tall had to be bolted to the floor. 

So I’m assuming that any Mobile Rak system you put out there didn’t ask to be any tip designed on all the systems, whether because no one’s got Mobile Rak in it under 12 foot and you’ve got to be anchored so that there’s no potential for tip. Ok, yeah, we we look at the ratios there, but that might be I’ll have to look into that, but that if that’s their standard, I think we would incorporate the anti TYP channels on all of them on the standard that says the. But again, the overhead is available, too. Now you’re talking static on the floor rack and right, 

Yeah, I mean, you go to Regular  Rack, for instance, they won’t even really sell you racking unless your plan calls for multi floor, because it won’t be the Rack manufacturers that it’s code for rapid installation anymore. 

So you get into any scenario in a city where you’ve got to have a staff of the city engineer the Iraqi police code, it’s got to be voted down. And I’m thinking because of that, you couldn’t possibly put a Mobile rak system together that doesn’t have the Anti tip Incorporated. I don’t think it ever passcode is inspected. I’m pretty sure we standardize where we’re going to use it to track just some additional safety. It’s the question of the overhead where that’s necessary. I mean, that’s because that’ll give you a lot of safety. But in some seismic areas it’s required regardless. But in most of the applications here in the Midwest and East, you have to follow those guidelines you just talked about for the pallet manufacturers. But again. In reality, the base high seems to be within the ratio, so you’re talking a 12 foot high. But you’re generally going to have a base of maybe forty one inches. So it’s  Important.

that’s like a three point five to one ratio as we look at and shelving and that should be fine. 

 But everyone we’ve quoted, I’ve used and I tip track. And again, the typical  and doesn’t cover all of them, but it covers a vast amount of them, is the eight feet and the 12 foot sections, because that allows you to put two standard palettes on or 12 standard palettes. A 10 foot would fit too easily and maybe some other sizes. But most standard sizes are, I think, pallets like forty one inches wide. So there’s forty one wide by forty eight. Typically they’ll use.  They’ll use the overhang, the skid off the back so you can get away with maybe a forty two inch depth, but some specify the full forty eight and use, and I’m talking about ones that don’t have any pallet decking on it. They may have it where the overhangs about three inches on each side and that’s down and dirty. 

But the picture you see there has wire wire decking on it. 

So most people are putting decking on it as well. But here’s the capacities of the standard pallet rack. The the eight foot span typically is using a four point one inch beam and those can handle fifty to one hundred fifty two hundred pounds. So that’s the max loading on a typical pallet is like twenty five hundred. So when we when we’re sizing it out, we somewhat will size it out for the max load, even though most of the skids aren’t going to be that heavy individually. So that allows you on an eight foot to put two per beam pair so to per level and then you can go up. I mean ideally you could go up with those weights. You could go up six, seven, eight levels. But that’s not real typical. It’s four to five. So each section tends to have about twenty thousand pounds on it in that application. 

Again, I’m not saying these are all. And then the the the 12 foot, obviously, it has to handle more weight load, but the standard 12 would wouldn’t handle three maximum loaded pallets. 

It’s almost there. So you would size it up with the six and a half inch beam. Obviously, the the thicker the beam, the more weight it takes. But eventually you’re getting to beams that are pretty thick. So here you are losing some storage, height and location. So. Does it make sense to everyone? You shouldn’t ask because twenty three people aren’t going to that, right? OK, so again, I keep talking about typical system. This is what I’ve seen. If you’ve got I know we’ve had a couple.

Yeah, that was that was where you first started realizing we’ll have to run the motor for the sink to be able to drive something that long.

 So we’re going to have to we we’re in development on that now where we’re redesigning our electrical system altogether. So in that, we’re going to be incorporating some of this, because I’ll touch on that in a minute. But, yeah, we certainly need you need more motor power to handle that. Our our current electricity bill electric system will handle probably a 60 foot carriage loaded. If we have a 60 foot carriage maximally loaded at four to five levels, you’re going to you’re going to be stuck with two to three more motors that we would have to synchronize. So part of the programming of our control, that that’s that’s probably the the issue is. We are current controls, cannot read a feedback or take a logic controller and say, hey, motor motor too is running out here and so we’re synchronizing you, that’s what we have to get done to be able to run these things synchronously. 

And I use that term different from Syncro Drive to having them run at the same speed at the same time. 

So you can avoid, , the the frog frog, frog walking or crab walking of the system. There can be slight and there always is, but it’s a matter of whether it can compensate for that. So, again, this is a typical medium, I keep going to medium duty because that’s what I’ve run into mostly is what I describe the four levels, four to five levels, high to pilots per level, using ninety six wide. I think I’ve quoted one or two 12 footers, but most of them have been eight foot wide, 16 to 20 feet long. But again, you get your 30 footers in there and once I get 30 on the medium duty, it’s now verging on going electric and going to synchronous motors.

So in this level, you can kind of get away with either doing a manual or a electric system on the heavy duties. 

As I’ve described, it’s pretty much going to be an electric system. And parking is we’ve partnered with Republik, that’s just something we did so we can supply it. I don’t know if we’re competitive or not. They gave us pretty good pricing so I can give you pricing on pallette ranking. We obviously don’t make it, but you can put any Palomeque in on here, as we discussed. So if you have a source, if you want to use your pallet rack ranking, that’s fine. We just need to know the bolt patterns, as we discussed. 

And then also we would look at maybe putting existing racking on carriages. 

If people have a traditional ILD system where they’re there to the floor, but they have these 10 foot aisles, we can we can make that more efficient by adding carriages under those. We would want to make sure that the the used if for lack of a better word, pallet racking was what sounds. So we’re not putting crap on there. But other than that, we should be able to do that. And this is your standard decking. Options wire is most is the most prevalent that I see, but you can get the slotted decking, perforated decking is is becoming big and then you’ve got the solid steel decking. So those are all available with with the power. And that’s pretty standard in the industry, too. So you can use anyone’s power. As I said.

as part of safety, are you going to require that decking be on all these units?

We haven’t. I have to say, I’ve put decking on everyone I’ve quoted, but you’ve seen out there in the field, I assume, pallets falling through or

Well, I haven’t seen one. But when I think of you introducing motion that if a forklift driver is having a bad day and only has a half inch overlap, you know, the potential that a motion there could cause that pellet to fall. So I just when you’re allowing the use of any type of pallet rack or anything like that, But from a safety standpoint, I would think that you would want to require it just because, you know, you’re dealing with folks who may or may not care whether that it’s not necessarily and that could have a have a bad effect,

It’s a it’s a good point. 

Perhaps we’ll have to do it as a requirement.  quoted the wire decking for the most part. But that’s a good point. If you see that picture up at the right hand corner, that that’s kind of a republic car, too. But they have also those those cross beams there, they almost look like self reinforcements, but those are to help guide the pallet as well. But, you know, I’ve seen plenty out there in existing non moving ones that don’t have anything on the on the beams. But your point is well taken that this is mobile and it doesn’t take much to make that thing start. Getting a nurse are going down the other way, which once you get started, you’re not going to stop it. S

I think it’s almost a requirement, is to do embedded rail.

So what they’re typically doing is either cutting out grooves in the floor or pre pouring them with grooves in it, and then they’re installing the track and back filling with concrete. We we put the fear in and then they back fiddled around it. So we didn’t we didn’t cut anything into the floor. It was they basically just came in and filled the space because, you know, the issue you have here is that you’re driving forklifts or possibly man lifts equipment that can weigh a forklift like a five thousand pound forklift could weigh ten thousand pounds. So it’s a man lift is obviously much less than that. So it just depends on what you’re what you’re doing or what the stairs like. But, yeah, you’ve got heavy weight there. So we backfilled or we didn’t do it the way we passed that back to the customer to bring their concrete contractor into to do that.

Yeah, that’s typically how they do it. 

They’ll they’ll ask us where the rails are going to be so they can put their their grooves in the floor, so to speak. And but that’s either they’ll take those out of existing or put them in a new car or or like you just said, they’ll they’ll do an overpass over the concrete after we we put it in and you use ground and level. That ride can we didn’t really have to use much grout there because it turned out when that building was built, it was so level they built it to be level. 

So there was very little involved. But one comment, when you’re going to cut across into the concrete, you’re now taking away some of the strength of the concrete. 

So you don’t know how thick that is. And so, you know, you’re getting into there’s a lot of engineering things that have to go on. And I guess I look at them as obstacles to make sales. So if it’s like if I can keep if I can keep the floor without having to cut the trough in it, then that would be my my preference. 

That’s probably the easiest way. And I know there’s folks out there who cut troughs, you know, on the space labor side and stuff like that. 

So but it’s a matter of knowing how thick is that? How how far down you got to go. What’s in there? There’s a lot of things associated with it. So but, you know, if you don’t if you don’t have the right floor to hold all this weight, it’s going to come back to bite you. So, yeah, I was in need of minimum six inches because, I mean, you’re troughing down two inches before you know it. You’re going to be into rebar for one end, maybe even through.

You actually have to have your engineers tell us, based on the weight of per sked, what kind of putty we need to have poured onto the floor or how thick the floor needs to be. 

You know, you can’t really have your dealer go in there, guess or the client gets my floor is good enough for the weight, though. I think you have to have your engineers actually come back, stop a load at the rack on the carriages. You’ve got to have X amount of footage, a floor under the track there, X amount of weight or lineal foot. Otherwise you’ll end up on a job where we’re covered the tracks to the floor.

Yeah, we would. 

Typically, we’re working with structural engineers at that point. If any doubt know, we don’t we don’t technically make the call because we’re not structural engineers, but we work with the structural engineers and they we give them the information they need so they can make sure the floor can take it. As I mentioned in passing, a lot of these are on the ground floor with a pretty  heavy slab. So it doesn’t tend to be a problem. And and sometimes these new floors are level as heck. So I had a follow up question to the leveling was, can you Shim? 

our our rail has leveling feet that you level it and then you you can ground it or if needed, and then you either take them out or a lot of. 

It’s just cut them off, but that’s how you level it, you can still use the traditional shims, we still supply them. So you can you can level it with shims as well. But for for the mobile rack, everything Israel related is pretty similar to what the office requirements are, with the exception of. But it’s not real in reality. You’re going to have a deck I mean, deck system on this app. Fork trucks are accessing it. So what I mean, I’ve seen some pallet rack applications that are duty bags or military bags where they’re putting them on mechanical and they’re they’re going in there with humans taking it off. So for bulky storage. So you could still have a deck type system in this type of application, but it would be a manual assist and then with generally no fork trucks going in there.

So just to finish up real quick on the heavy duty side of it, again, we’re working on it. 

We’re going to have to. Redefine and redesign our electric system  Now, I’m not talking mobile motors, I’m talking the the logic behind the control systems, being able to go wi fi and Bluetooth. You’ll see on the big applications these these guys will have a smartphone in their fork truck and they’ll just program what aisle there are going to or it will be within the programming logic of the control unit to tell you what’s stored where so they know where to go and they open it from their fork truck and drive.  

And take it out, drive out. We we did do an electric design in Puerto Rico. 

They’re looking at both manual and electric. And what we did was developed basically a a station at the front of the system where they could go into the outer control unit as is and program what I or they want to open. with our standard controls, which if you see the picture up there that the control panel up there up front is the electrical control panel, which is where you do all your programming. It’s it’s got a lot of stuff in it . So we set up a workstation to get to where they can stop by in their truck and they could just program the aisles from there. have a wi fi Bluetooth control that they can access with a smartphone and the program with a smartphone and all that kind of stuff, as well as read the diagnostics on the motor controls and maybe where where it’s at be able to deal with, like light sensors if they have light indicators that showing you where where it is. 

Some have light trees on their posts that show them exactly what level to go to. It lights up. 

So we got to be able to deal with all of that. We are contracting with an electrical company to to do that. But I think once we get Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, where we’re almost all the way there as far as the motor synchronization, that’s that can all be done with with the right logic controls that you would have built into that. So with that comes all that other stuff that we need to be able to participate with the big boys. And that’s all I got for mobile, you run in the same carriage that you would run for a small file applications. What do you mobarak putting tracking on it. We it’s a six it’s a six inch carriage, and again, the way though the loads are dispersed, that carriage is is seeing it at the at the wheels.  Strong enough that if someone runs into it with a forklift, it’s not just going to Buffalo.

The the pillar blocks on the on the wheels, they’re able to handle the sixty thousand pounds per barrel.

 The and our our office one thousand. It’s actually not Pelo blocks, it’s bearings within the wheels. So there’s two bearings in each wheel and then so each wheel can take seventy five hundred pounds, each set takes fifteen thousand. So yes they can take that load.  are you going to offer an extended warranty on the mobile, racking to get people to take a chance and put in as a guinea pig some of your first systems? Yeah, I think we we’ve we’ve kept a limited lifetime warranty on it, so we would apply that to it. And yeah, if it helps get the deal, we’d certainly look at it. We do that separate contracts and negotiate that on other projects. 

Right now, we’re promoting pharmacies and library shelving. .

But is it possible to get some photos of some MobileRak the jobs you’ve done that access tracking on it? is this on any GSA or state contracts? yes The carriages certainly are in the rail and everything. The pallet racking  we will now have this on it as well as our MJ shelving on the GSA that’s currently on it.